I have no one else to admit this to so here goes. I always felt my girth was small and I wanted to improve it. I read one obscure review online where these products made his girth not only bigger, but made his penis redder in appearance. That's exactly what happened to me over the course of a few weeks. It blew my mind when I noticed I had a bigger dick, and really happy too I guess, and it's all natural. Both herbs do something to the fibers in the penis and create more or something, I dont know I'm not a scientist. But I am a strong believer in herbs now.